In this episode, Jillian speaks with doula and childbirth educator Holly Dobrynski, CD, CBE, PE. Holly discusses her path to becoming a doula, her new childbirth education program Birth Languages, her own birth stories, being a caregiver by nature, and how her first doula client opened her eyes to all the possibilities birth brings.

To see Holly's portrait and the shownotes from this episode, go to workingbirth.com/ep03

In this episode Jillian continues her conversation with midwife Karen DeCocker, CNM, DNP, APRN, IBCLC. Karen talks about how she got into nursing & midwifery, how research changed her life, her work with some amazing human milk researchers, two big changes in women's health care since she started her career, and why women are getting angry about not knowing their options. Jillian shares about the time she observed a c-section. 

Also discussed: evidence-based, low intervention birth in a hospital setting, Karen's work in a small, rural community hospital, urgent vs emergent c-sections, and problems with distribution of information to moms, particularly to those of low socio-economic status.  

Shownotes can be found at workingbirth.com/ep02

Welcome to Working Birth! A podcast & portrait project exploring the work of women in the birth community. In this episode Jillian talks with midwife Karen DeCocker, CNM, DNP, APRN, IBCLC. Karen discusses the midwifery model of care, the importance of evidence based practice for birth, her research on lactation, and her experiences working in various communities. To see Karen's portrait and the shownotes for this episode, go to workingbirth.com/ep01